Click to expand.Ehm, cheers, but I specifically asked whether decoplanner was the choice for DIR divers or whether they also use other programs: 'I would like to know if decoplanner 3.0 is the preferred choice among DIR divers'. I also tried to make clear that I am not fixed on anything 'just because it is branded DIR' even if it is no good and wanted to know whether perhaps DIR divers prefer other software. But since Decoplanner is made by GUE, aimed at the DIR diver and is central to my question I am surprised you moved the thread.

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Thanks to all for your answers so far! I haven't taken GUE's tech classes so cannot say what they use to come up with DIR deco. I have read GI3's deco articles available at WKPP.org and use the information in those to fudge my deco profiles regardless of what software I use. Now I'm new to deco (only about 20 deco dives), so take this for what it's worth: I've used vplanner, an old version of decoplanner and ANDI's GAP diveplanner. Of the three I prefer GAP because it a) it generates a nice graphs of the dive plan, b) it let's you choose whether to use RGBM or neo-haldanian (buhlmann) algorithm, and c) the latter algorithm let's you adjust the gradient factors all the way from 1 to 200, whereas my copy of decoplanner (buhlmann) only goes from 5 to 100. They have many other little features and differences that I haven't really needed so far. You can download a 14 day free trial version of GAP from ANDI's website.

I will say that it took a few more minutes to learn than vplanner or decoplanner, but that's insignificant in the big picture. Click to expand. DIR deco generally does not come directly from any dive planning software. It's my understanding that the WKPP guys use RGBM as the starting point for dives under 200 mins bottom time and VPM for dives over 200 mins (so essentially for the rest of us it's RGBM However, what the deco s/w spits out is (even for basic deco diving) only a starting point to generate a safer deco profile (adding in deep stops, O2 window etc.) The value in understanding DIR deco only comes from taking the class, and practicing soem of the required skills (good ascents, good buoyancy, good gas planning, good team skills etc). The software is just something to generate some initial numbers from. Also, within certain very useful ranges of diving, deco s/w need not even be used - there are sets of pretty simple rules that allow you to generate a flexible deco plan that can be changed on the fly as you need to. I have not used the dirrect output from any deco s/w for my deco planning, and we always plan it in our heads on the boat just before the dive.

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• I have been using the Abyss Decompression software from Abysmal and find it to be a bit quirky at times. I was thinking of changing over to Deco Planner from GUE. I have never used or even seen Deco Planner. For you users of this program, Likes, Dislikes please?.Arduous.
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It's flexible enough to plan for +/- 5-10 mins +/- 10 feet lost deco gas without needing a Phd in math. DIR deco generally does not come directly from any dive planning software.

It's my understanding that the WKPP guys use RGBM as the starting point for dives under 200 mins bottom time and VPM for dives over 200 mins (so essentially for the rest of us it's RGBM However, what the deco s/w spits out is (even for basic deco diving) only a starting point to generate a safer deco profile (adding in deep stops, O2 window etc.) The value in understanding DIR deco only comes from taking the class, and practicing soem of the required skills (good ascents, good buoyancy, good gas planning, good team skills etc). The software is just something to generate some initial numbers from. Also, within certain very useful ranges of diving, deco s/w need not even be used - there are sets of pretty simple rules that allow you to generate a flexible deco plan that can be changed on the fly as you need to. I have not used the dirrect output from any deco s/w for my deco planning, and we always plan it in our heads on the boat just before the dive. It's flexible enough to plan for +/- 5-10 mins +/- 10 feet lost deco gas without needing a Phd in math. ScubaBoard.com ScubaBoard.com is the world's largest scuba diving online community. Since 2000, ScubaBoard has been the place to go for internet based discussions related to all things Scuba.

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Hi, I have just purchased the GUE DecoPlanner 3 software and I have used it to successfully plan two decompression dives using the default settings (Conservatism Setting Nr 2). Needless to say, my Oceanic dive computer calculated a completely different decompression time! My dive buddy used different software to plan the same dive which calculated a more aggressive dive profile. Furthermore, when compared to the BSAC Nitrox tables the dive profile calculated by the DecoPlanner software is FAR more conservative. My gut feeling is that the default software setting of '2' is too conservative. I was just wondering if anyone else was using this software and had any thoughts/opinions on the Conservatism Setting?

If so, what setting are you using? Thanks, Luke. Whats wrong with conservatism? Most dive computers/planning software utilise cimpletly different algorithms, thus you will normally end up with different profiles. Most of my dives are planned using Decoplanner with GF's varying but normally set at 30/85.

Could I run the dive more aggressivly and get out of the water quicker? Am i happy doing an extra few minutes at 6m - absolutely. I use an older version of Decoplanner but as far as I know the newer version still has Gradient Factors in it, why not play with those if you want to minimise deco. Whats wrong with conservatism?

Most dive computers/planning software utilise cimpletly different algorithms, thus you will normally end up with different profiles. Most of my dives are planned using Decoplanner with GF's varying but normally set at 30/85. Could I run the dive more aggressivly and get out of the water quicker? Am i happy doing an extra few minutes at 6m - absolutely. I use an older version of Decoplanner but as far as I know the newer version still has Gradient Factors in it, why not play with those if you want to minimise deco. I don't have anything against conservatism, within reason. I was just trying to illustrate that the Decoplanner software using its default settings seems to be OVERLY cautious compared to other software, dive computers and tables.

I don't want to be trying to impose excessive deco on a new dive buddy (I dive in a club). I think that could be a sure way to be ostracized!:). I don't have anything against conservatism, within reason. I was just trying to illustrate that the Decoplanner software using its default settings seems to be OVERLY cautious compared to other software, dive computers and tables. I don't want to be trying to impose excessive deco on a new dive buddy (I dive in a club). I think that could be a sure way to be ostracized!:) If you dive in the club that i think you dive with (only dive club in Dubai) then there is more than 1 way to be ostracized.:).

I don't have anything against conservatism, within reason. I was just trying to illustrate that the Decoplanner software using its default settings seems to be OVERLY cautious compared to other software, dive computers and tables. I don't want to be trying to impose excessive deco on a new dive buddy (I dive in a club). I think that could be a sure way to be ostracized!:) What sort of diving are you doing? Run-times/deco times? I think anyone who queries adding another 5-10mins deco to a 30mib deco plan, needs to find another buddy.

What were the runtimes of DP3 when you run them through GF? Luke, Slightly off topic, and i really hope that i am not teaching you to suck eggs, but there are a couple of other considerations to bear in mind when planning deco diving in Dubai/Fujeirah. 1 - The majority of the deeper sites are up in Musandum - this is a loooooong way from any help if things go tits up. 2 - If you drive back to Dubai from the East coast you are passing over the Hajar mountains.

The highest reading i have ever had was 800ft from sea level - not incredibly high but still high enough. 3 - The best chamber is located at Special Forces command in Abu Dhabi. This is a good 3 hours from Fujeirah and even further from Musandam.

You cannot rely on the emergency services to help you out, its going to be a mate driving you there. How do those extra few minutes in the water sound now? Hi, I have just purchased the GUE DecoPlanner 3 software and I have used it to successfully plan two decompression dives using the default settings (Conservatism Setting Nr 2). Needless to say, my Oceanic dive computer calculated a completely different decompression time!

My dive buddy used different software to plan the same dive which calculated a more aggressive dive profile. Furthermore, when compared to the BSAC Nitrox tables the dive profile calculated by the DecoPlanner software is FAR more conservative. My gut feeling is that the default software setting of '2' is too conservative. I was just wondering if anyone else was using this software and had any thoughts/opinions on the Conservatism Setting? If so, what setting are you using?

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Thanks, Luke Can you post the +2 profile? Genuine question. I thought GUE was all about ratio deco so why have the produced a deco planner? Is it not surplus to requirement?

Deco planner has been around a long time so its not a recent thing for GUE. I use GF deco and ratio deco and i use Deco planner to adjust my deco planning using ratio deco. I work out a ratio deco profile in a given range and then i try and manipulate GF to match the RD profile and this tells me the levels of aggression I am accepting with RD. On shallow 45-55m divingRD can be soft but in deep diveing its pretty damed aggressive.

If you know the patterns you know how and when to pad it out. GUE teach you to dive ratio deco by first comparing it with GF (may be VPM now but it was GF) In the int ital over exuberant days of DIR on the inter web, we were lead to believe that RD divers never set eyes on a computer of any sort. But that was in fact smoke and mirrors. GE and WKPP were working closely with decompression gurus like Bill Hamilton when planning their dives and RD was only rely used blind for well known dives depths and run times that had been tried and tested by many other divers.

They tried to keep it all under wraps for a while to keep up the mysteque of DIR diving but once it became common knowladge the boundries of RD started to become aparent. Personally i think its brilliant and it saves me a shed load of money on back up computers. Equally i think Deco planner is the best decompression planning software I have ever used. Luke, Slightly off topic, and i really hope that i am not teaching you to suck eggs, but there are a couple of other considerations to bear in mind when planning deco diving in Dubai/Fujeirah. 1 - The majority of the deeper sites are up in Musandum - this is a loooooong way from any help if things go tits up. 2 - If you drive back to Dubai from the East coast you are passing over the Hajar mountains.

The highest reading i have ever had was 800ft from sea level - not incredibly high but still high enough. 3 - The best chamber is located at Special Forces command in Abu Dhabi.

This is a good 3 hours from Fujeirah and even further from Musandam. You cannot rely on the emergency services to help you out, its going to be a mate driving you there. How do those extra few minutes in the water sound now? Sounds about right, not forgetting that Dhows are extremely slow getting back to Dibba. That's an incredibly honest answer.

Given what most people type on forums you'd think that RD was the be all and end all. Thanks for a refreshing point of view. You probably shouldn't believe everything you read on forums:) I have a range of dives between the surface and about 50 metres that I don't need any additional tool for.

Any deeper than this, or pushing the exposure on a shallower dive, then I use a tool like decoplanner. The way we teach how to use these tools is to run the numbers and pragmatise what comes out so that it is simple and easy to remember. This usually means adding conservatism, but that's only a crime on YD:).